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Our Journey to Transform Nortel

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Over the past year, some of the “non-technical” comments from many of you have been focused on what you consider to be the lack of visibility for Nortel in the public arena from a marketing and advertising perspective. My intent was to post a blog today about our new advertising campaign, but given the elephant that’s in the room – re: the visibility we actually did receive this week around our Q4/2007 financial results – I thought I’d offer some thoughts and perspectives and defer the advertising entry ‘til next week.

It’s pretty clear from the comments that many of you are very passionate about the business and about Nortel, and that’s a good thing. For those of you, however, who are forming opinions about the company based solely on the stock price or the headlines – which were brutal, as headlines tend to be when restructuring is part of the news – I’d encourage you to take the time to dig a little deeper. I think you’ll find some good data and some strong proof points that might make you feel more positive about our progress.

I’m not going to reiterate the results here, but would encourage you to take some time to listen to the call that Mike Z and CFO Pavi Binning held with the investment community on Wednesday. It will give you some insights into the company and why I remain optimistic about our future. A playback is available here.

In particular, I would draw your attention to Chart 12 in the slide package that was used during the call, which in a nutshell captures the past two years of our transformation journey and what lies ahead (and we are certainly not naïve to the challenges). (The rest of the deck provides the details and proofpoints.) Essentially, two years ago, we were losing share in most segments; we had an uncompetitive operational and cost structure; and we had operating margin losses for four out of the five prior years. That’s when we launched a major, multi-year transformational plan to recreate Nortel into what Mike Z describes as “a high-performance company that is consistently profitable and is known for its technology innovation, outstanding quality and operational excellence.”

Two years later, we recognize there is still much to do, but progress we have indeed made. We’ve rebuilt market momentum and have restored customer confidence (a number of charts in that same deck will show you a list of major and significant customer wins); we are on a better earnings trajectory than any of our peers; we have significantly improved our operational and cost structure (6th consecutive quarter of gross margin improvement and our operating margin for the quarter was the highest it’s been in 12 quarters); we’ve grown faster than the market in many segments; we’ve rebuilt the company’s leadership (have a look here – world-class leaders with proven track records); and employee satisfaction is up.

Every major function in the company is going through a transformation of some sort and each can tell an encouraging story of progress. On the R&D front alone, we’ve accelerated the shift of R&D dollars toward new and emerging markets and technologies and are close to operating at our target R&D distribution of 20-60-20 (20% of the R&D budget directed at emerging technologies; 60% at core/sustaining; and 20% at legacy); our advanced technology research labs are continuing to pioneer breakthroughs; we’ve increased the reuse of technology across the company (build once – use many); we’ve improved our plan of record predictability; we’ve put new recognition programs in place for the R&D community; we’ve established a portfolio management board that ensures there is process, rigor and discipline in the management of our overall portfolio and future investments; we’ve increased the hiring of new grads into the company; etc. etc.

Every function in Nortel, I would argue, is in a stronger position than it was two years ago. We ARE making progress.

The one point from our announcement that might be worth highlighting in order to clarify some confusion around the loss we reported is related to the deferred tax asset write-down that Nortel took. Without the tax write-down Nortel actually had net income of $154 million. I’m not a tax expert, so in order to explain it I thought I’d copy here the explanation that Peter Look, our VP of Tax, shared with employees in response to a number of questions that came in on our employee blog:

“What are the Canadian deferred tax assets? In Canada, Nortel has about $1 billion of unused R&D tax credits, $1 billion of tax losses from previous years and about $0.5 billion of future tax deductions not claimed on any tax returns yet. We “wrote-down” a portion of them in Q4.

Could we have avoided a write down? No, we’re required every quarter under accounting rules to look at how much we can reasonably expect to use and over what timeframe we think we can use them. A lot of factors come into play in making that judgment. Please note that this is just “accounting” and that the tax benefits are still available for us to use as future conditions warrant.

Why now? There were a convergence of events in Q4 that interacted negatively with each other. Among them were 1) a 3.5% tax rate cut enacted in Canada in late-December which stretched the time horizon to use the R&D credits and 2) a continued strong Canadian dollar versus the US dollar (about .85 in beginning of year versus close to par at end of year) that devalued the stream of future Canadian taxable income (expected to create the tax to be sheltered by the assets), because our Canadian business unit earns a bunch of its income in US dollars.”

Bottom line: We’re on a journey to transform this company to once again be the great company that it was, and we’re making progress. I came to Nortel about 1.5 years ago to be part of what I continue to believe will be a tremendous transformation story. And, I’m as committed now as I was then to helping drive that transformation.

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  1. What people in NA see is Nortel having far less real estate than two years ago. What they hear is that legacy is vanishing from them, core was consolidated, but virtually nothing really new has been added, which ergo comesv closer to a 10-85-5 distribution.

    I suppose its (prospective) shareholders that shouldn’t form opinions about the company based solely on the stock price or the headlines, but some of them do happen to be Nortel employees, and they walk the mile every single day.

    Lots of folks are no experts, but still wonder how the experts continue to overlook the by now countless little tidbits:

    “Zafirovski must also repay his former employer $11.5 million in separation money. Brampton, Ontario-based Nortel said it will reimburse its new CEO for this payment.”

    …and why they had to pay for this and, quite possibly, Frank Dunn’s unfortunate legal bills. No raises for the non-experts, little training, instead layoffs. Your CEO gave himself a nice raise last year, say the papers.

    Sure, folks are no experts, but even if it is all rumors and innuendo it adds up to a increasingly negative image that won’t be placated by buzzwords “leveraging synergies”, Lean6Sigma, and “deferred tax assets” fuzzy math.

    All folks want to know if, say, RLO is history or not, plain and simple. If they knew, maybe they would buy some Nortel stock. Or not.

  2. John,

    I spent 18 years at Nortel, and still believe it has the potential to regain its stature. My stock ownership position is an indicator of that belief.

    Please maintain your commitment, my retirement needs it!

  3. You have gained my respect by trying to respond. Now please respond to the issues below.

    By writing down the tax credit, you are basically saying that Nortel will not make enough money to use them in 2008 (or have not made enough money to use them in 2007)? If that is the case, Nortel is telegraphing to the world that it will not make as much money as many analysts expected. So if it becomes apparent to most analysts (more than before Q4 announcement) that Nortel will not generate the revenue they expected, why shouldn’t investors sell it off?

    Bottom line, all it sounds like is Nortel will not be doing as well as all the PR hype that has been spun for the last 2+ years. If I am wrong, please correct me in words that we stupid engineers can understand. Death by 1000 cuts is still death.

  4. No matter how anyone spins this, there are still misses by a former respectable company. I have yet to see Nortel introduce anything that leap frogs the competition and remains in customers’ eyes as a me too company. Other companies like Cisco, Foundry, Force10, and Woven are advancing technologies and solutions remaining at the forefront of the industry. They are taking share from Nortel in terms of customers and employees.

    I applaud you by taking a stab at the white elephant but really…I have Googled past transcripts and they are reminiscent of the Cabletron/Enterasys era where the same themes were touted.

  5. The only winners in this transformation are the small group of executives at the top with oversized pay and raises. The pay given to previous executives was an even bigger joke.

  6. John,

    Thank you

    I think you miss the point. People are less concerned about the stock price than the lack of vision from the executives, the lack of product in the pipeline (I know PBT, 40Gig Optical, WiMax, LTE yea, yea, yea, but where are the products carriers and enterprise are buying today?)

    Trajectories aside (and I agree it is better) people are angry about the wholly inappropriate pay increases of most of the leadership coupled with repeated layoffs followed by outsourcing to fewer, less experienced personnel. People have not forgotten the promise of ethics and integrity that turned out to be “do as I say, not as I do”. People are angry about having to bail Zafirovski (who was supposed to be some sort of deity), out of his agreement with Motorola.

    Transformations aside, people are concerned with the removal of people that were clearly experianced and successful in favor of what appears to be the appointment of an inexperianced croney. People are tired of buzz and spin. Zafirovski armies of “quality” robots are clearly not effective, to quote an ad campaign “where’s the beef?”.

    How exactly is this R&D acceleration being accomplished with large layoffs and exorbitant executive salaries being reported year after year? How is progress being made with code being transferred all over the globe with little to no architectural vision or change control?

    Yes, margins have been increased. Yes you have had a few sales wins, but at what cost? You seem to ignore the fact that the stock price represents the markets consensus assessment of Nortel future six months (or so) out and prospects for future earnings.

    Bottom line; mostly people are angry about the unrealized potential and the stock price follows that sentiment.

    BTW. VP of Tax?????? Good gracious, what a title :)

  7. To many of their own employees sitting in empty seas of cubicles, walking darkened legacy labs, Nortel’s transformational plan appears to focus almost solely on cost reduction. From one extreme to another.

    Move people out, move OPs overseas. And when the numbers still don’t add up, move more people out, move more OPs overseas.

    The remaining crew should be the best ever. Their neatly quantified numbers of deadlines met and required units completed attest to this, sparing them time and again from termination.

    Whats left are 18 year Nortel vets who experienced 7 years consistant downturn, punctuated by countless “trust us”, begging to keep, if nothing else, the status quo, so that their careers will not have been in vain.

    So the light set at the end of the darkened hallway reads “trust us”.

  8. I’m writing this note, and I probably shouldn’t be right now - because I’m feeling angry, betrayed and confused.

    Several people (beleagured investors) have commented on the real issues we see with Nortel;
    - lots of promises, buzzwords and hype
    - mediocre performance
    - nothing substantially new happens
    - time dragging on and on and …
    - executive’s pay packages go up handsomely
    - the stock price today is $.84 (to us oldtimers)
    - insensitivity in actions/news timings

    I’ve seen my long term investment in Nortel, which I’ve unfortunately relied on for my “golden years”, be reduced to the point where I now have to try to return to the work force from retirement to make sure I survive. That’s the reward I get for being a believer, and I must now admit, a very dumb investor.

    I’ve been a Nortel believer for a very long time. Believing in the technology, new management, optimistic restructuring plans, etc. etc. Watching every tidbit of news and anxiously awaiting the quarterly reports to see how “we” are starting to win. All the while suffering the reports from most analysts who said nasty things about Nortel and warned us away. Unfortunately, it turns out they were right. With the news from the company over the past week, I no longer believe. It took a long time for me to get to this point, but you can only hold out hope for so long. When you see your real financial life’s worth literally disappearing in front of your eyes day by day, a breaking point is inevitable. I feel most sorry for my wife who believed in me while I was believing in Nortel. Ask me how that’s going down now.

    So, I’m sorry for this sad tale, but I’m sure I’m not alone. Writing it down has been a bit of a cathartic experience. Now if only the depression would lift.

  9. I’d disagree that employee satisfaction is up, or that this tax fiddle is the end of Nortel’s financial worries.

    But this being the CTO’s blog, and all, we should perhaps form our opinions about Nortel’s health based on what kind of new innovations and gadgets folks in R&D are seeing, or can expect to see soon - finally - and why invetors and emplyees should invest their time and money based on that: what is actually being installed.

  10. Required; How do you say “Screw You” in LA?………………………………

    “Trust Me”

  11. Sometimes I allow frustration to creep into my posts, and I think most people can tell when that happens. I’m going to be careful to stay on point in this post because John has responded to the masses…or at least I hope he has. Let’s hope we see some interaction with him in this thread because it’s an important one.

    First, I would like echo many’s thanks and to support everything he wrote. We focus on the stock price as the best guage of how healthy Nortel is, but it’s just a guage. We’re much more interested in the factors that influence the stock price and I for one feel starved for reasons to be optimistic.

    The discussion around the impact of the tax asset on the results is secondary. It’s true that it sends a message to the market that Nortel is predicting shrinking revenues, but the real story that seems to be overlooked is that even if you discount this impact, Nortel still missed expectations.

    There are more signs of trouble. When MZ points to the previous regime as the problem this far into his tenure, it comes across as an act of desparation.

    But all this pales in comparison to the latest news on compensation. MZ has preside over the erosion of almost 3/4 of Nortel value and yet due to some excel data manipulation he gets a big raise? And Joel Hackney damages Nortel’s reputation with his anger management problems AND he steps in to start erosion of the Enterpise business…and he is also rewarded with a significant raise? John - there is no defense - it defies common sense. JACK WELCH WOULD NEVER HAVE TOLERATED THESE ACTIONS.

    John, I believe I am better connected into the Nortel populace than you are. The commonly used term for messages from the cabinet is ‘Jibber Jabber’. Watch Boston Legal for a translation.

    So what’s the bottom line? The executive payouts are a huge problem, the lack of a clear growth strategy is a bigger problem, and nobody is buying the corporate propaganda. Don’t bother with the new marketing campaign in this blog until you deal with the fundamentals.

  12. I hear one of Nortel’s showcase tractor trailers was recently revamped with new stuff, and that some WiMAX treehouse(?) was recently set up at Richardson.

    The Internet says that Nortel endorses WiMAX. It also says that WiMAX vs. LTE.
    Searching Google News for “nortel wimax” returns mostly ads, but “nortel lte” offers:

    “Nortel Networks has started deployment in 4G LTE”

    “the CEO is optimistic about LTE wireless”

    “Nortel has also said it’s committed to supplying products for the competing 4G wireless technology called LTE”

    The layman is confused. What is Nortel selling? WiMAX? LTE? A little of both? Are the press lazily interchanging one term with the other?

  13. I believe that the LTE and WiMax standards will merge and co-exist. The main difference is in the RAN and has to do with spectrum, so I suspect that in some places and carriers a WiMax RAN will make sense, but in the majority of places LTE will be less risky.

    http://3g4g.blogspot.com/2008/02/wimax-or-lte-or-both.html

    It is a bit amusing to me the HSDPA has not really been deployed for any meaningful amount of time yet. That couples with an economic downturn and the studies that show people do not use high speed data while they are mobile (the do use it in a nomadic sense and stop at hotspots, but rarely if ever use it while driving. Make 4G a solution in search of a problem at the moment.

    Of course, things will change and nortel (among others) will need to be ready to deliver quantity as well as quality when the time comes.

  14. It could take a while…

    “operators will adopt a ‘wait and see’ approach and learn from the experiences of early pioneers”

    …letting others spend their money first.

    “unlike WiMAX, which requires a new network to be built”

    This would cost money.

    “LTE runs on an evolution of the existing UMTS infrastructure”

    Nortel sold its UMTS for $320 mio.

    Looks like its gonna take time, money and Lady Luck for this to come together successfully. If. Maybe. Sometime.

  15. John,

    If all of you in the executive team believe in Nortel why are you not buying the shares – they are a great value if you believe your story?

    Given that the stock is now a penny stock you should really be ashamed for what you have done and what you have put the shareholders through!

    Please sell the company – It would justify your salary if you can get the stock price to when you all came on board.

  16. Hi, this is Peter Look, VP-Tax for Nortel, to answer some of the questions asked by Nortelhand in post #3 and elaborate on John Roese’s comments on the tax item. I’ll share more of the facts, which can also be found in our Company’s SEC Form 10-K filed on Wednesday.

    - Nortel does business in over sixty countries (or more, depending on how you want to count) and are required to evaluate deferred tax assets by country and by legal entity. We have global deferred tax assets of $6.7 billion, valuation allowances (an accounting reserve) against them of $3.4 billion, leaving us with net $3.3 billion on the financial statements. The Canadian portion of the deferred tax assets was $2.5 billion, valuation allowances against them of $1.3 billion (after the $1.1 billion charge), leaving us with net $1.2 billion (about half).

    - The tax charge of $1.1 billion is related to Canada’s tax profile only. There was actually a write-up of the tax assets in Germany, Ireland and China of $28 million, and no special actions were needed to the tax assets in the US (our largest market), the UK, France, and all other countries.

    - Several factors affected Canada’s tax profile, including (1) a tax rate reduction enacted in December (which reduces the tax on our future stream of Canadian taxable income, leading to needing fewer tax assets over a given number of years), and (2) a continued strengthening of the Canadian dollar (which means any future Canadian taxable income that is expected in US dollars is worth less, paying less future tax, and needing fewer tax assets). Timing of when Canadian future taxable income is expected by year also comes into play in the accounting decision.

    - Much of what we are reading comes from two camps, the media (primarily journalists covering stories for daily newspapers and business publications) and professional financial analysts (who are paid to spend time analyzing Nortel to either provide financial advice to investors or work for institutional investors that might invest in our stock). Most of our stock is owned by institutional investors (mutual funds, pension funds and other types of investment firms).

    - We have not seen the professional financial analysts (generally accredited CFAs) use our Canadian tax profile as a data point to extrapolate global revenues, growth rates, or margins in their financial models on Nortel. However, we did provide in guidance for 2008 during the earnings call, that we expect low single digit revenue growth and about a 3% increase of operating margin compared to 2007, and they separately have their own data on the industry and economy as a whole.

    - Finally, this was a non-cash charge isolated to our Canadian tax profile, for accounting purposes only, and the assets remain available for future use if needed. Without the charge, our net income would have been $154 million.

    Thanks again for the question. Hopefully, we will have this distraction behind us soon. We all have a lot to deliver during 2008, which can really drive our stock price, in order to continue our trajectory upward and forward.

  17. Unless it doesn’t.

    “Let the pioneers take the arrows” has always been a philosophy of the carriers. A successful one I would add.

    A nortel sr executive has claimed (in this blog) that there is no migration path from UMTS to LTE :) I challenged him on that, but I did not get any meaningful response. If revolution vs. evolution is nortels strategy I agree they are in deep-deep do-do on the carrier side and they should spin off any hope of regaining market share there unless they buy it.

  18. Like I said above…all these comments are JUST LIKE the downward spiral at Enterasys. The message is the same - “Just wait and wait and wait and we’ll turn this ship around”.

    Let me be quite clear. This ship ain’t turning. John. You need to respond to everyone here on the reasons why? Nortel is clearly losing footing and share in the market.

  19. My name is Scott Wickware and I am a VP in the Carrier Networks organization. I have seen a lot of comments pertaining to WiMAX and LTE, with many people seeking a lay man’s perspective on what this means. People love to use acronyms to describe individual technologies and grouping of technologies. At Nortel, we are as guilty as any other company that throws around these acronyms; however, this doesn’t mean that everything has to be confusing. We all need to appreciate that these are very complex technologies to develop and deploy, but that what matters most is the end user experience. The house of cards falls apart if these technologies do not provide subscribers with a service they value and at a price point that they (or a third party) are prepared to pay for the service. So, here is my attempt to generalize the situation and provide a little clarity. Here we go…

    Nortel broadly defines 4G (or Fourth Generation) wireless technology as set of technologies that provides: 1) a radical improvement in end user performance, 2) a radical improvement in the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) for the operator and 3) is based on (and here comes some techno speak) a physical radio layer known as OFDM and a flat IP architecture in the core. The technologies that meet this criteria, today, are WiMAX and LTE. WiMAX is a technology that was born out of the IEEE and is often referred to as 802.16d/e, while LTE (or Long Term Evolution) is a technology that was born out of 3GPP and 3GPP2 (ie the people that brought you UMTS, CDMA 1x EV-DO, etc… and generally GSM and CDMA before that). In other words, WiMAX was started by people that typically design the data standards, while LTE come from the people that define mobile (or cellular) technologies.

    So what does all this mean? Well, essentially, these two technologies are complimentary and address (at least initially) two very different market segments. WiMAX has been deployed to address the market segment referred to as the underserved Broadband market. Practically, this means WiMAX is used as the technology to allow fixed subscribers in homes and offices to access the internet at broadband speeds. In most developed markets, subscribers use ADSL or cable to access the internet from their home or office. In more remote areas or in emerging markets, the business case does not exist to deploy one of these two technologies and consequently, WiMAX becomes the technology of choice to meet the business case of the operator. LTE, on the other hand, appears to be the technology of choice for existing cellular operators to increase their revenues through new and innovative data services. This means that familiar names associated with offering mobile services will be the likely carriers that deploy LTE.

    Nortel is active in both technologies for a variety reasons. Firstly, both technologies represent a significant market opportunity. Analysts vary in their opinion on timing and size, but the general consensus is that WiMAX will (actually is) first and that LTE will be much larger in size (over the next 5-10 years). Secondly, WiMAX has a two-to-three year head start on LTE and is being deployed now in commercial networks around the world and has been for some time now. LTE is coming at us like a freight train, but will be in trials in 2008/09 and commercial towards the end of 2009. Thirdly, the R&D effort to design and deploy WiMAX networks leverages a number of Nortel competencies – specifically a strong history in wireless technologies, carrier data networking, VoIP and an end-to-end network perspective. It really does require Nortel to pull together the full power of the atom chart. LTE will require the same competencies. In other words, WiMAX not only provides a market opportunity to generate revenue in and of itself, it provides an opportunity for Nortel increase and improve its skill set in all of these areas to be ready for LTE. Fourthly, Nortel will build common platforms and applications across the broad suite of 4G technologies. We have focused our internal organizations around taking a holistic approach towards platforms and spend as we move towards 4G.

    The last thing I would add is that LTE will be a discontinuity for existing operators. There is no question that operators will do everything they can to leverage their existing investments (and this is typically spectrum and their sites vs. their equipment); however, the one thing they will not do is threaten their existing revenue streams with the introduction of a new technology. The era of Hyperconenctivity means that a wide range of new devices will access the network and require a complete rethink of both bandwith allocation, but also security and general connectivity. To that end, Nortel stands an excellent chance to increase wireless market share through both WiMAX and LTE and looks forward to the challenge.

  20. Post #15 makes an excellent point. Nortel is now a penny stock. World class corporations do not trade as penny stocks. If you think that Nortel has such a great future why aren’t you or any other executives buying the stock?

  21. Peter Look - thank you for taking the time to respond, I feel your passion, but the tax item isn’t the main point for those who understand a little bit about corporate accounting, it seems to be more of a smoke screen to deflect attention from the real issues. The major concerns are 1) Nortel missed expectations even after the tax item is taken into account…let’s here more about that, 2) there were huge concerns when Joel Hackney was appointed to lead the Enterprise business and it seems the concerns were justified given the erosion in the Enterprise business, and 3) everyone is shocked at the audacity of the board and cabinet over the compensation increases awarded while the company is seemingly in a death spiral WITH NO VISIBLE MECHANISM TO END IT.

    THE PREVIOUS REGIME HAD THE INTEGRITY TO GIVE BACK THEIR BONUSES WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THEY WERE AWARDED WITHOUT MERIT. DOES THIS REGIME SHARE THAT LEVEL OF INTEGRITY? WILL MIKE Z AND JOEL HACKNEY GIVE UP THEIR RAISES AND OPTIONS GIVEN THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS? I DOUBT IT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE PROVED WRONG. REMEMBER THAT MIKE Z, THE NEXT TIME YOU RESORT TO FINGER POINTING. YOU ARE DESTROYING NORTEL AND THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON NORTEL AND YET YOU TAKE A SALARY INCREASE FOR THIS. HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF? YOU AND JOEL HACKNEY ARE EMBARRASSMENTS TO ALL THE OTHER EX-GE ALIMNI.

  22. Scott Wickware - Thanks to you also for clarifying the Nortel understanding of the 4G moniker and the opportunities that are coming up.

    Now let’s dig in to your statement “To that end, Nortel stands an excellent chance to increase wireless market share through both WiMAX and LTE and looks forward to the challenge.”

    I remember EXACTLY the same words used by Nortel with wireless mesh when it was first emerging. Nortel was huffing and puffing and was actually doing a decent job of leading the market. Then when the rubber hit the road and it was execution time, Nortel under-invested and quickly moved from leadership to an inconsequential 3rd or 4th position in the segment. The people who led the effort left Nortel and the business basically crumbled.

    So now here we are with 4G - WiMax and LTE. Lots of huffing and puffing but this time you don’t have Al Javed to oversee the effort and it isn’t clear that you’re starting from a leadership position. Given past failures to execute and Nortel’s dire market position, why should we have any confidence that 4G is an opportunity for Nortel? You can’t out-invest your competitors. Do you think you have better technology? Better channel to market (even without a 3G footprint)? Why should we be excited? Tell us why we should be enthusiastic…we really do want to get behind you but we need a reason!

  23. Aye, because tmw morning quite a few people will return to their empty cubicles and darkened labs mostly to watch the clock run down on R&D in NA. Theres no technology flashy enough to distract from that.

  24. Peter, Scott and all of the senior leaders of Nortel — Just one action would go a long way to giving you credibility — BUY NORTEL STOCK and BUY A LOT OF STOCK.

    If you cannot do this then sell the company because you do not believe in what you are doing — you are just going through the motions and for that Shame on you!!

  25. I concur with comment 24. If the executives believe in Nortel than they should buy the stock. This will provide the best message to the market. At this price it should be a bargin.

  26. I have seen all the other Telecom doing better as per say..If everything is going as plan whay is it not reflecting to the Market. Management needs to step up by buying there own shares or the buyback to put some faith in the company.

  27. I agree management should make additional personal investment in the stock of NT to demonstrate their confidence. While appreciating the current disconnect between fundamentals and share price, this should present an unprecedented financial opportunity for management to acquire shares of the company at very attractive levels. There is nothing more confidence building than to see people put their money where there mouth is.

  28. John,

    Look at the amount of comments regarding Nortel Management buying the stock — You guys should really put your money where your mouth is!

    I am sure we would all welcome a blog entry on this topic.

  29. John, Scott, & Peter…

    Thanks for giving us the hope. Please continue the wonderful work you and your teams are doing. We will stand behind your efforts, knowing very well that Nortels day will come.

    Thank you.

  30. Firing 2,100 people is hardly “wonderful work”. Any number of local businesses have already vanished thanks to telecom’s swagger - read ineptitude, greed, fraud and waste - and the lcoal job market is gonna flood yet again with tech types looking for Wimax jobs along with fresh graduates.

  31. Hey John,can I borrow a couple bucks? You see, my husband got laid off today.He worked for Nortel for 26 yrs. Not that I’m upset, I rather enjoy financial upheaval at this point in our lives. LOL! Maybe you could give us a few shares of stock, oh wait, we have some in our 401-k…. We worked hard to bring Nortel to the pinnacle and stayed when the going got rough. Now you send our jobs overseas. Thanks…………….

  32. Guys it is a cold cruel world. If a company is not making money, reorganization is what happens. If it does not happen, it lingers in the muck (think of Japan banking a few years back) or goes the way of the dinosaur. No one likes (unless they are sick) to run people off, cut, relocate, etc… but if things don’t change it will be the end.

    I am not happy about what Mike Z has done to the stock price, I do respect what he is doing to fix Nortel. Will it work, only time will tell. But the company you work for is only going to take care of you as long as they need you, this cuts two ways; you can always go and find a better job. That is if there are jobs in your field, if not I recommend night school. Put more tools in your tool box, as an employee you only have yourself and qualifications to sell.

  33. Nortelhand,

    Yes it is. I only assert the same standards should be applied those that are greedy, thoughtless, negligent and derelict in their duties. Those who add needlessly to the cold and the cruelty for their own benefit. This statement applies to some of the past “leadership” as well as the present crop.

    If Zafirovski’s job is to make the company money, he has failed. If his job is the “fix” nortel he has failed, if his job is to make himself and his “mini-me” cronies rich at other peoples expense, he has succeeded.

    Do *you* think Zafirovski deserves a raise? Why? How about “mini-me” JJ? Why? Do you think they are held to the same job performance standard the rest of the employees are? Why? Convince me.

    I will tell you as a stock holder in the company and former employee, I think Zafirovski *and* his “mini-me” buddies have to go and the sooner the better. I don’t like being taken even though I never put too many eggs in the nortel basket. I do not like to see people I know and respect suffering under this mis-leadership. Nortel is not a widget manufacturer. If nortel is to survive it will be because of new ideas and innovation *not* six-sigma.

  34. Certainly the adage the “company you work for is only going to take care of you as long as they need you” applies to management as well?

    Also, your pat “if you don’t like it get another job” contradicts the concept of constructive criticism.
    Management values input, as Nortel’s “Own It!” tales readily prove. But then, management also says “trust us” and “go ahead, buy Nortel stock”.

    The reality is that some Nortel branches consistently skimped on employess training and education for years citing budget woes. Between each quarterly “trust us” cycle, layoffs squeezed a glut of firees into the local job market. Headhunters are by now unimpressed by Nortel pedigrees. Your lurid past could keep you from getting a job becuase you did nothing to fix Nortel.

    With any luck the same will happen to those bosses who leave their companies when they’re no longer needed.

  35. Do I think Mike Z and his band of managers should get a raise? Answer is NO! It is there job to drive shareholder value up, and grow the company. When and if (Big IF) they do that, then they can get a raise.

    As for headhunters or as I like to refer to them as “Flesh Peddlers”, they don’t care where you are from as long as they can sell you. If you’re a manager, you will probably have a hard time coming from a company like Nortel. If you are technical and keeping up with technology, (Read use your own money to train yourself) you should have a lot easer time. Tweek the old CV and put it out.

    Don’t forget “company speak” is just that. The bottom line is they will cut you loose when they don’t need you or if they need to cut cost. Look around it is going on in every industry, auto, computer, etc….

  36. John,
    It is getting pretty ugly in the stock market. Nortel is approaching the all time low acheived shortly after the scandal. Investors are losing confidence. Management needs to respond…

  37. For all the negative feedback on executive compensation, imagine the market’s reaction and the “sky is falling” outcry if Mike Z were to leave? I’ve been through the bubble and the burst, and the long years of trying to recover. What is this, the 8th year of trying to right the ship?

    But people forget the depths of those first 6 years. The scandals, lawsuits, failed joint ventures, countless products that were launched then killed before they saw the light of day in a customer network.

    We’ve been through a lot, and the cumulative effect of everything builds up as you can see with the comments here. But ignore the stock price and what would your opinion be? Maybe I’m not as jaded because my retirement isn’t tied to Nortel’s closing price, but I see leadership, direction, and a passion for the future that I can’t say were around the first 6 years of the turnaround.

    The grass is always greener….or is it?

  38. Dear John. Perception is reality. While you in Nortel believe to be on right track, you have completely failed in convincing the investing community about the progress and as a consequence the share price has plunged. As a shareholder having lost 60% of the original investment, it’s been a tough and painful journey with big losses. I personally belive in the market potential and in Nortel as a strong player with great long term profit potential. Unfortunately I don’t see your belief translate in to aggressiveness in the official statements dealing with the future perspective. Instead Nortel has started talking the same language as Alcatel Lucent - it’s a tough market, the credit crisis will impact our business etc. On one hand you want to believe in a bright future but on the other hand you scare people with cautious statements. I think that NOW would be a good time to send a strong positive signal to the investing community…if you believe strongly enough in it yourselves and if you have the competences to communicate it convincingly!

  39. NT stock dropped another 50 cents as you wrote that. And thats the ultimate measure right there, nothing else.

    People with no connection to Nortel whatsoever, only looking to profit via investments, are neither impressed by Nortel brass nor it semployees.

  40. Nortel Lifer et al - If MZ left and the board left the position vacant, I’m sure there would be a negative backlash in the market, especially given that there is no cabinet member that the industry would respect as an interim leader. However, if the board were to announce that MZ was leaving to pursue other interests and announced the right replacement in the same breath, I suspect the market would react positively. In any case, doing nothing because the market might react is like sitting still in the boat so as not to make waves as it drifts toward the falls. In my opinion, the current cabinet team is not up to the job of turning Nortel around. It’s not that they don’t work hard or drive the employees hard, it’s simply that they don’t know the industry well enough to spot the right bets to make. I can see two or three different bets Nortel could make that would get them into solid growth areas but it would require them to bet outside of their comfort zone, something that Cisco has done but which Nortel (and to be fair ALU) is unlikely to do.

    Finally, don’t be fooled by the finger pointing to the old balance sheet or the current economy woes. MZ has been here long enough to own any balance sheet issues and as far as the economy goes, The successful companies (Cisco, Nokia) are having their *growth* impacted a little…not their profitability.

  41. Hi, Another Nortel Watcher (lots of them these days it seems). I’d be interested in you expanding on your comment “I can see two or three different bets Nortel could make that would get them into solid growth areas but it would require them to bet outside of their comfort zone”

  42. Well the rage is slowly simmering and by this years annual meeting at Ottawa in MayI am sure it will be at the boiling point. Say what you will about Nortel’s recovery the bottom line is the share price. Confidence will move the price upward I see NO confidence in Nortel, the share price proves it. Mr Z said Nortel would be a “great company again” and the “share price would increase by many multiples” when he announced his 3-5 year transformation plan. I cannot stomach the total collapse of Nortel’s market cap.What a sham, what a dog and pony show Mr Z. is running, all smoke and mirrors. But the final straw was the pay increase. Now that takes balls.

  43. John,
    When you hinted that investors should not look at the stock price only, I knew that we are unfortunately having very bad and incapable top executives. What do you think that we should look at? The financial reports or the white-lie taking? You guys need to go back to business schools to find out what their duties are. We are the shareholders, so we care about the sharevalue. You guys are supposed to care about the share value as we do. You guys are paid to do so.Please walk out the building if you only care about your own big salary raise and bonus.

    To be honest, you are really annoying and worrying me by saying that. It is shame for you to be such a “leadership”. Unfortunately, I did trust you guys.

  44. Good Morning John,
    All of our competitors shares seem to be rising this morning and we are down another 3%. We are down for the 8th consecutive day. Shares have lost 60% of value since November. Sure would appreciate some executive activism.

  45. Well John, if you are turning this company around it seems like you didn’t manage to communicate it (as stated in my last entry). The share price keeps plunging and the Nortel management is deadly quiet. It even seems as if you initiated this blog but don’t manage do respond to the criticism. How far the share price has to fall before Nortel’s well-paid management takes to action? I don’t see any announcements that Nortel managers are buying shares at the moment - the belief is fading? I doubt that you can deliver the evidence for all the promises and most probably the share price will return to the level it was before the reverse stock-split. Just like it seems that the management wasn’t capable to foresee the additional tax bill - amazing! It’s very disappointing and a sign of poor management - a management that immediately should take a heavy pay-cut…

  46. I would like to join the comment 45 (above) with my concerns and worries.
    And I do like to get some dynamic reaction to mine and others comments. Today is not going well….the trend seem to stabilize downwards.
    John (or MZ)! Please talk about TODAY situation TODAY!!

  47. Thank you John for your insightful and honest blogs, they are very helpful. As for all the doom and gloom about the share price, I wish people would step back, take a deep breath, and look at all the good things Nortel has done, is doing, and plans to do in the years to come. Today we hit an all time low on the TSX, but try to remember people, the last time we were here, the stock price increased by a factor of five in just 3 months! I would argue that the Nortel of today is much stronger than in 2002….restatements in the past….settlements in the past……improved margins and profitability…….and accounting weaknesses repaired. Thanks John, I think hard work that Nortel is doing today will bear fruit shortly.

    Dave

  48. I have never experienced such commitment and pride even through the tough times as Nortel employees. They truely believe in the services and product it produces. The challenge has been regaining the support and trust Nortel once had. My trust was regained by the forwardness and honesty of John Roese.
    Yes shares still seem to be unstable but are supported by a committed company that embrasses change and development to support its partners ,consultants and shareholders.

  49. Forget the share price for a minute. Look at what they are doing to this company. They brought in the silver bullet of 6 Sigma, tossed on a very bad, 1980s style development process, and started managing by metrics. This has stifled the output of the company. Top that off with constant layoffs, constant outsourcing, and constant cost cutting, and you will find the guts are ripped out of this company.

    The executive team have one answer and one only. They cut and cut and cut until they show improved margins. Then spin a story about how they have turned the ship and then they collect their money and run. This is not the first company they have done it at. Always judge an executive by the shape they leave a company in a year or two later. In this case, you will see they have left companies with bare cupboards and no long term strategy.

    This company is suffering from a simple lack of ideas. They have no idea how to run a software based company. They don’t understand the business. They don’t know what to invest in. when you lack ideas, you go back to the easy answer. Cut, cut, cut.

    I would not invest a penny in this company until we get some leadership that want to lead and inspire, not cut and gut.

  50. I’m trying to figure out if the stockholders should wear paper sacks over their heads at the annual meeting, like fans do at games when their team is an embarrassment.
    Let’s pay top executives lots more money,drop $1.1 billion tax bombs on pummeled shareholders, and engage in happy talk. Don’t wake up the clueless Board of Directors to the disappearance of 99.5% of shareholder value;they are probably too busy thinking up new ways to put company money in top executive pockets and Board perks.

  51. Since NT beat expectations in November, the stock has proceeded in an almost straight line from 19 to 6. At no point during this slide did the stock retrace to the upside more than $2.

    And at no point has management seriously addressed the price decline. Mr. Z and company have simply acquiesced to the market’s erasure of 2/3 of NT’s equity.

    That inaction is almost as striking as the severity of the price decline.

    At current stock prices, NT’s equity is valued at about 18 months’ worth of current R&D expenses. And almost exactly at annual SG&A expenses.

    Despite the talk of cost-cutting, these expenditures are now wildly out of proportion to reality.

    You might think I’m wrong. But if you’re going to argue that R&D is the future, you have to explain the disconnect between past R&D expenditures and the current equity valuation: NT has spent about $5.5B on R&D over the past 3 years. Today, the market values the totality of NT’s equity at $2.6B, or a little less than half this amount. If the R&D is so productive, why aren’t the results manifest in the share price?

    And if you’re going to argue that the market isn’t properly valuing this R&D effort, you have to explain the disconnect between the current valuation and management’s complete acquiescence to the recent price performance. If the market doesn’t “get it,” why isn’t management either helping the market understand the company or stepping in with a share purchase of other strategic action to unlock NT’s value?

    Either the market or management is right, and management isn’t doing anything to help us understand why it’s right.

    I only mention R&D as one example of NT’s currently amazing financials. It’s not the only, and probably not the most important, thing to harp on.

    But the sad truth is that a GE-pedigree isn’t worth what we all thought it was worth and Mr. Z is a failure. There, I’ve said it and it’s out in the open. Failure. Unmitigated disaster. Ruiner of companies and ruiner of lives.

    Maybe the situation was unsalvagable. Maybe there was absolutely no strategic decision Mr. Z could have made to save NT. Maybe NT was destined for the bankruptcy courts all along and Mr. Z fought the good fight for as long as he could. I doubt it, but I’m willing to acknowledge the possibility.

    What is beyond question is that Mr. Z is not a leader. At least not a leader of Nortel. He is clearly not connecting with all of the stakeholders he needs to connect with to support his company.

    If you disagree with me, explain how Mr. Z demonstrated leadership while 2/3 of the equity value of his company evaporated. Listening to the crickets chirp while your stock declines 5% per day is not leadership.

    I throw down the gauntlet Mr. Z, climb out from under the rock you are hiding beneath and show me, show us all, that you are capable of leading a company.

    Take action. Either advance or retreat, but do not just sit and get pounded. While they don’t have honorary PhD’s, every boot camp jarhead knows that.

    I am nominating Mr. Z for two awards: Worst GE-alumni CEO ever, and Worst CEO, 2008. The bad news is that the market has already seconded my nomination and is voting daily. The good news is that your fate is in your hands. Do something. Put that big brain to work. And either make me out to be the fool, or acknowledge that you are one yourself.

  52. Where is Mike Zafirovski?

    You have your own blog. At the recent March 4, 2008, Morgan Stanley presentation, George Riedel and Pavi Binning did the presentation. But where is Mike Zafirovski?

    Our stock price was down 43.55% in 2007 and, thru yesterday, the price is down a further 59% thus far in 2008. Currently, our stock price is essentially the same as Alcatel-Lucent. The key distinction between Nortel and Alcatel is that Nortel is Canadian whereas Lucent is French-based.

    During 2007, Mr. Z. received a cash salary of $1,272,941, a cash incentive payment of $1,288,853, a pension payment of $698,714 and, in spite of a declining stock price, more restricted stock and more stock options. The 2007 options and restricted stock grants have not done much good in terms of incentive. Come to think of it, the 2006 stock/options grants have not done much good either. Hmmm, neither have the cash payments.

    Where is Mike Zafirovski? He is not visible, he should be out championing the Nortel cause.

    Today, and probably over the next weekend and in the days ahead, Mike Zafirovski and the other well-paid Nortel executives will be dining at their favorite restaurants, socializing at their country clubs. Yes, the company’s officers will all be enjoying themselves. Hopefully, those people who see them will all be fully aware of the dismal stock price of Nortel Networks. There should be no pride exhibited by the company’s officers as they all have presided over a 43.55% drop in stock price during 2007, and a further 59% fall thus far into 2008. Yet, all of the company officers were very well compensated for 2007, and Nortel’s board of directors have already chosen this month to hand out more stock and more stock options for each one of these people. Awarding stock options at continually lower prices, what a great concept.

    Again, where is Mike Zafirovski?

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